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* '''Maxie (Jagged Pass Hideout):''' Low Kick Mightyena to death. Crobat's only doable if a few stacks of Bulk Up were built up on Mightyena (hard to pull off, given the presence of Roar.) Low Kick also works for Camerupt, unless it's faster than Machoke; Machamp's fine either way.
 
* '''Maxie (Jagged Pass Hideout):''' Low Kick Mightyena to death. Crobat's only doable if a few stacks of Bulk Up were built up on Mightyena (hard to pull off, given the presence of Roar.) Low Kick also works for Camerupt, unless it's faster than Machoke; Machamp's fine either way.
   
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* '''Matt (Lilycove Hideout):''' Mightyena's a joke, not even having any offensive moves; deal with it using your choice of STAB. Golbat is like Maxie's Crobat, in that it's only to be fought with Bulk Up stacks built up during the Mightyena fight, with the same issue of Mightyena having Roar.
* '''Matt (Lilycove Hideout):'''
 
   
 
* '''Gym #7 - Tate and Liza (Mossdeep City, Psychic-type):'''
 
* '''Gym #7 - Tate and Liza (Mossdeep City, Psychic-type):'''

Revision as of 03:37, 21 February 2018

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Machop appears in both Fiery Path and Jagged Pass in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. In Ruby and Sapphire only it appears on Route 112.

Machop Line
Machop
Machop RSE
Type Fighting
Abilities Guts
Gender Ratio 75% Male, 25% Female
Catch Rate 180 (23.5%)
Evolution Level 28
Machoke
Machoke RSE
Type Fighting
Abilities Guts
Gender Ratio 75% Male, 25% Female
Catch Rate 90 (11.8%)
Evolution Trade
Machamp
Machamp RSE
Type Fighting
Abilities Guts
Gender Ratio 75% Male, 25% Female
Catch Rate 45 (5.9%)

Important Matchups

  • Tabitha/Matt (Mt. Chimney): Fighting STAB takes care of all of Matt's Pokemon, while Tabitha's Numel can be handled with Rock Tomb.
  • Maxie/Archie (Mt. Chimney): Sharpedo and Mightyena are easily handled, although their abilities are a hindrance. Golbat can only be handled if Rock Tomb is in play. Camerupt as well.
  • Gym #4 - Flannery (Lavaridge Town, Fire-type): The Slugmas should go down with relative ease, so feel free to use Machop here. However, you should be careful with the Torkoal, since it has really high defense. Instead, you should probably use a special based Pokemon against it.
  • Gym #5 - Norman (Petalburg City, Normal-type): Machoke/Machamp is great against Norman. It wrecks everything, but do be wary that the final Slaking has Focus Punch. Using Bulk Up allows you to have even more certainty that things will just die. Let the mayhem commence.
  • Courtney/Shelly (Weather Institute): Machoke/Machamp handles either with care.
  • Rival (Route 119): Machoke/Machamp neutrally hits everyone here well, and Shroomish can even set off Guts. Combusken however, will be a bit of trouble with Peck.
  • Gym #6 - Winona (Fortree City, Flying-type): This is where Machoke/Machamp will most likely see a two-gym absence. The type advantage is not in your favor, especially since most if not all of her 'Mons outspeed Machamp, and they are all packing Aerial Ace. If for some reason you do want to try to take her on with Machamp, then your best bet would probably be Rock Tomb. I still don't advise it though. Use something else if you can.
  • Rival (Lilycove City): Same as before, but Swellow should be an avoid without Rock Tomb.
  • Tabitha/Matt (Lilycove Hideout): Machoke/Machamp should know how to handle Camerupt, Sharpedo, and Mightyena by this point.
  • Gym #7 - Tate and Liza (Mossdeep City, Psychic-type): This one is another gym Machamp should stay away from. Both the Solrock and Lunatone have Psychic, and despite Solrock not having the best SpAtk, they both have STAB. This is especially inadvisable since it is a double battle and they could both potentially target Machamp with Psychic. In addition, Machamp doesn't really have a good answer, with neutral STAB being the most effective attack it would have. Just like with Winona, use something else if you can.
  • Courtney/Shelly (Seafloor Cavern): Machoke/Machamp should know how to handle Camerupt, Sharpedo, and Mightyena by this point.
  • Maxie/Archie (Seafloor Cavern): Sharpedo, Mightyena, and Camerupt are standard. Remember that Intimidate is a chore to deal with, unless Swagger brings it back up. Crobat is more difficult to handle, meaning Machoke/Machamp should avoid.
  • Groudon (Cave of Origin, Ruby only): Machoke/Machamp should fight with Guts activated, only.
  • Kyogre (Cave of Origin, Sapphire only): Machoke/Machamp should fight with Guts activated, only.
  • Gym #8 - Wallace (Sootopolis City, Water-type): Machamp can set up on Luvdisc to take everyone else out.
  • Wally (Victory Road): Altaria, Delcatty, Magneton, and Roselia are easily handled. Gardevoir, not so much.
  • Elite Four Sidney (Ever Grande City, Dark-type): Yes, Foresight on Sableye.
  • Elite Four Phoebe (Ever Grande City, Ghost-type): This one might be a bit more tricky, but Will-O-Wisp helps Machoke/Machamp if it has Guts. Foresight is the best way as before.
  • Elite Four Glacia (Ever Grande City, Ice-type): They go down to Fighting STAB easily, but watch Machoke/Machamp's health.
  • Elite Four Drake (Ever Grande City, Dragon-type): Against Shelgon, Machoke/Machamp has the best opportunity to set up with Bulk Up. Otherwise, everyone can be handled with care. Although, Salamence and one of the Flygon have a super-effective Flying STAB move.
  • Champion Steven (Ever Grande City, Steel-type): Skarmory is not a good matchup, though Bulk Up solves Machoke/Machamp's weak spots. Otherwise, Claydol is a stalling match. Aggron goes down easily to STAB. The same with Cradily. Armaldo and Metagross are a bit tricky, as they have Aerial Ace and Psychic.
  • Post-Game: Not much in RS to do, really. But, Machamp handles well against Pokemon that can't 1-2HKO it.

  • Tabitha (Mt. Chimney): Smack around the initial Numel and Poochyena with Karate Chop; Dig also works for the Numel if you have it as it lacks Magnitude. The other Numel does have Magnitude though, and should be avoided because of this. Machop can only challenge Zubat if it has Rock Tomb, but it's still risky as both 2HKO the other and Zubat starts out faster.
  • Maxie (Mt. Chimney): Low Kick/Karate Chop the Mightyena, possibly starting with Bulk Up to eliminate the Intimidate debuff and being mindful of Sand-Attack. Handle Zubat the same as you did with Tabitha's. Avoid Camerupt; while Low Kick is potent against its heavy self Magnitude has the potential for massive damage, even one-shotting if it rolls a Magnitude 10.
  • Gym #4 - Flannery (Lavaridge Town, Fire-type): Machop needs to stay out of this altogether due to the omnipresence of Overheat wreaking havoc on its poor Special Defense. If you ground up to the point of evolving, things improve dramatically. Numel can be taken out with Karate Chops/Low Kicks. (Don't Dig, because Magnitude.) Machoke clobbers Slugma with Rock Tomb or Dig. Camerupt should be dealt with using Low Kick, though a Machoke that is slower than it will have to heal if it leads with Overheat, and should stay out of the battle if Sunny Day's in effect. Also note that male Machoke/Machamp will have to watch out for Attract from both Camerupt and Torkoal. Then again, it shouldn't be fighting Torkoal anyway, what with its massive Defense and getting two full-power Overheats thanks to its White Herb.
  • Gym #5 - Norman (Petalburg City, Normal-type): Machoke/Machamp can pretty much Low Kick the crap out of anything here, with the exception of Spinda who requires an alternate STAB due to its lightness. Two things to note though: 1. Pulling off a sweep with just Mach- will require healing; do not do this in front of Linoone as you don't want it pulling off Belly Drum. 2. DO NOT attack Slaking on its attacking turns or you risk killing your own 'mon via Counter - using those turns for Bulk Up setting up is a good idea.
  • Shelly (Weather Institute): Two Dark types with only Dark moves for direct damage? What a joke. Give them both a taste of your STAB moves.
  • Rival (Route 119): If Machoke/champ has Rock Tomb and Bulk UP it can try to take out Pelipper, though given Wing Attack and Rock Tomb's imperfect accuracy it's a bit of a risk. Dish out STABs at Lombre, whose attacks are rather weak. Slugma can be taken out by just about anything Mach has due to how fragile it is, and it might even burn in the process for a nice Guts-based boost. Dig Combusken if you have it, otherwise any Fighting move stronger than Low Kick will work. (Or a Bulk Up + Low Kick.) One use of Bulk Up + STAB spam will allow Machoke to take out Marshtomp; Machamp can skip the Bulk Up. Machoke should avoid Grovyle, but Machamp's buff enough to STAB it to death.
  • Gym #6 - Winona (Fortree City, Flying-type): Aerial Ace on everything makes this ill-advised even with Rock Tomb. Though if need be, Machamp can try its luck against one of Swablu, Tropius or Pelipper, while Machoke can only handle Swablu.
  • Rival (Lilycove City): Tropius is ill-advised for Machoke as your Rock Tomb and its Magical Leaf are 4HKO's and Rock Tomb's inaccurate; Machamp gets a much-safer 3HKO vs Tropius's 5HKO. Pelipper is very similar to Winona's and should be treated accordingly. Ludicolo's moves are sorely underpowered and so it can be Low Kicked to death by either Mach. Slugma's still a joke. Combusken's handled like before, and is slightly less threatening without its Double Kick. Marshtomp is unchanged, as is Grovyle.
  • Tabitha (Jagged Pass Hideout): Low Kick the Numel, Mightyena and Camerupt while Zubat is dispatched with Rock Tomb. The fact that Machoke/Machamp likely has a decent amount of level advantage makes it even easier.
  • Maxie (Jagged Pass Hideout): Low Kick Mightyena to death. Crobat's only doable if a few stacks of Bulk Up were built up on Mightyena (hard to pull off, given the presence of Roar.) Low Kick also works for Camerupt, unless it's faster than Machoke; Machamp's fine either way.
  • Matt (Lilycove Hideout): Mightyena's a joke, not even having any offensive moves; deal with it using your choice of STAB. Golbat is like Maxie's Crobat, in that it's only to be fought with Bulk Up stacks built up during the Mightyena fight, with the same issue of Mightyena having Roar.
  • Gym #7 - Tate and Liza (Mossdeep City, Psychic-type):
  • Maxie and Tabitha (Mossdeep Space Center, tag battle with Steven):
  • Shelly (Seafloor Cavern):
  • Archie (Seafloor Cavern):
  • Gym #8 - Juan (Sootopolis City, Water-type):
  • Wally (Victory Road):
  • Elite Four Sidney (Ever Grande City, Dark-type):
  • Elite Four Phoebe (Ever Grande City, Ghost-type):
  • Elite Four Glacia (Ever Grande City, Ice-type):
  • Elite Four Drake (Ever Grande City, Dragon-type):
  • Champion Wallace (Ever Grande City, Water-type):
  • Post-Game:

Moves

Machop starts with Low Kick, Leer, Focus Energy, and Karate Chop unless it is Lv. 19 or higher, at which point it gets Seismic Toss instead of Low Kick. Karate Chop will probably be your STAB of choice for a good while. Seismic Toss is too situational to use, and is mediocre in the early game. Low Kick can be useful against some opponents early on, but late game is where it'll see a lot of use. At level 22, it gets Foresight. It is very handy against Ghost types, especially against Sableye later on. Level 25 gives you Revenge, which can actually be of good use due to the Machop family's low speed. Vital Throw is next at level 33 (level 31 if you forgo evolution for a little while. Also note that Machamp learns moves at the same level as Machoke). Vital throw is decreased priority and deals less damage than Revenge most of the time, but note that it cannot miss. You should probably skip Submission at level 41, due to its higher risk and relatively low reward. Instead, you might want to go for Cross Chop at 46. This will probably be your endgame STAB along with Low Kick unless you prefer the more accurate Brick Break, since it has 80% accuracy. Scary Face is learned at 51, but it probably isn't worth a move slot, since Machamp prefers to beat up Pokemon with raw power. Finally, Machamp gets DynamicPunch at 59, which would be awesome...if it could hit (If only No Guard existed in Gen III).

So to round out Machoke/Machamp's extremely type-limited level-up movepool, we now teach it some nifty TMs. Early in the game, Rock Tomb hits Flying Pokemon hard, and is a good option to help Machoke/Machamp gain some speed by slowing the target. Although, Machoke/Machamp will generally want to run better moves leaving no room for it. Also, Rock Tomb is in its pre-buff stage this gen. Dig can be alright as well, but isn't particularly spectacular. Earthquake is generally better. Strength is a good Normal move for Machamp and also disguises as utility, but it would much prefer Facade or Return to work with. Bulk Up helps it set up well, allowing it to tank physical hits and hit back very hard. Brick Break is notable, if Cross Chop is too unreliable.

Recommended moveset: Cross Chop / Brick Break, Low Kick / Earthquake / Foresight, Return / Facade, Bulk Up

Other

Machop's stats

Stat Range
At Lv. 50 At Lv. 100
HP: 70
130 - 177 250 - 344
Attack: 80
76 - 145 148 - 284
Defense: 50
49 - 112 94 - 218
Sp.Atk: 35
36 - 95 67 - 185
Sp.Def: 35
36 - 95 67 - 185
Speed: 35
36 - 95 67 - 185
Total: 305   Other Pokémon with this total  
  • Minimum stats are calculated with 0 EVs, IVs of 0, and a hindering nature, if applicable.
  • Maximum stats are calculated with 252 EVs, IVs of 31, and a helpful nature, if applicable.


Machoke's stats

Stat Range
At Lv. 50 At Lv. 100
HP: 80
140 - 187 270 - 364
Attack: 100
94 - 167 184 - 328
Defense: 70
67 - 134 130 - 262
Sp.Atk: 50
49 - 112 94 - 218
Sp.Def: 60
58 - 123 112 - 240
Speed: 45
45 - 106 85 - 207
Total: 405   Other Pokémon with this total  
  • Minimum stats are calculated with 0 EVs, IVs of 0, and a hindering nature, if applicable.
  • Maximum stats are calculated with 252 EVs, IVs of 31, and a helpful nature, if applicable.


Machamp's stats

Stat Range
At Lv. 50 At Lv. 100
HP: 90
150 - 197 290 - 384
Attack: 130
121 - 200 238 - 394
Defense: 80
76 - 145 148 - 284
Sp.Atk: 65
63 - 128 121 - 251
Sp.Def: 85
81 - 150 157 - 295
Speed: 55
54 - 117 103 - 229
Total: 505   Other Pokémon with this total  
  • Minimum stats are calculated with 0 EVs, IVs of 0, and a hindering nature, if applicable.
  • Maximum stats are calculated with 252 EVs, IVs of 31, and a helpful nature, if applicable.


Machop Line Ratings
Availability
3 Stars
Matchups
4 Stars
Movepool
5 Stars
Survivability
4 Stars
Type Usefulness
3 Stars
Team Role
4 Stars
Offensive Utility
5 Stars
Defensive Utility
3 Stars
Tankiness
3
Fun Factor
4


Overall
4 Stars
  • What Nature do I want?: Anything that raises Attack is ideal, such as Adamant or Brave.
  • At what point in the game should I be evolved?: You should be a Machoke by the time you fight Norman.
  • How good is the Machop line in a Nuzlocke?: Machop is a solid choice for an early Pokemon that can still hold its own against most oponents up to the late game, thanks to its high attack and decent bulk. However, it cannot be expected to fight everything, nor does it have good options outside of its STAB.
  • Weaknesses: Psychic, Flying
  • Resistances: Bug, Rock, Dark
  • Immunities: None
  • Neutralities: Normal, Water, Ground, Dragon, Ice, Fire, Steel, Poison, Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Grass